[Jensson]

> The thread isn’t eliminated and America looks weaker.

The threat is eliminated, Iran will not be a threat again after this. If USA pulls out Israel will finish the job for sure since Iran isn't in a position to stop Israel bombing their powerplants, and without power they can't do anything.

So the question now is what state we can get after the threat is eliminated, not if the elimination was successful.

[lostlogin]

> The threat is eliminated, Iran will not be a threat again after this.

I guess we will see. They have worked out how to control the straits quite effectively and made the US look very foolish. It’s weakened a load of US relationships and damaged a load of economies.

For a regime that’s eliminated, it’s sure proving hard to wrap things up, and the oil is not flowing.

It’s going to be interesting to see what any peace settlement looks like as the longer it goes on the worse it hurts everyone. Will Iran be the first to cave?

Is this what America winning looks like?

[Saline9515]

The USA doesn't have the power to eliminate the Iranian regime that the Israeli far-right doesn't like. Most of its military assets are deeply entrenched in the mountains.

Israel, on the other hand, has been manipulating the US president into entering an unwinable war, bombs its neighbors, including UN blue helmets soldiers, and now invades Lebanon and Syria. Its officials have publicly stated to agree with the "great Israel" plan.

Why aren't the USA considering that Israel is a threat and bombing it as a result (since it's the only available tool, apparently?).

[Saline9515]

Quite the contrary, the “genius” decapitation strike sold by Netanyahu only led to the coming of a new leadership with much more hardline views. While there was no threat to the US to start with, the current regime is much more entrenched, and its military still seems quite potent.