[anuramat]

makes sense in a philosophical debate or when you're talking to your confused grandparents, but does anyone on hn not know how LLMs work, at least on the level of "tokens, matrices, data, sgd"?

otherwise, that reminder must imply that people do know how it works, and yet they still ascribe to these models some property like qualia, i.e. something other than "being able to turn english into code and compute into shareholder value";

but then if you disagree, why even mention it in the first place? do atheists randomly proclaim "btw god isn't real!" in unrelated conversations with strangers of unknown religious beliefs?