[mvkel]

The output is pretty terrible. Multiple attempts to get it to generate ambient music, and every time it pumps out a terrible dubstep beat.

Like a strange form of Gell Mann amnesia, where all AI output is probably this bad, but if we don't know any better, we don't know just how bad it is.

[arcticfox]

What do you mean by the Gell Mann part? The output from this tool may be bad, but AI music in general is extremely good. My playlist is largely "AI artists" at this point and they're really good, to the point where if you look them up online, it's mostly people being finding out they're AI and being sad about it (I also felt this - would love to see them live, but they're not even real).

[mvkel]

RE: Gell Mann.

I know what music I like. I said I wanted "dystopian, ambient, droning music with ear-filling, warm bass. No drums or beat."

What came out was some pretty generic dubstep that one might hear on a Verizon commercial circa 2018. Subjective, sure, but a big miss given the instructions I gave it.

Now let's say I ask it to generate code to scrape all real estate listings that were recently taken off the market. The output looks good enough to me, and I'm happy. But is the underlying architecture just as bad as the music?

[arcticfox]

Got it, I like that. I see what you mean but I think a lot of that is just this tool is bad - like coding models from a year or two ago, they look convincing, enough that you waste your time on their bad decisions.

I think SOTA on both fronts has already reached exceptionally good though.

[SwellJoe]

"My playlist is largely "AI artists" at this point and they're really good"

That's the craziest shit I've ever heard.

[jatora]

Much more common than you think, and zero rational reason for it not to be the case since suno v5.

[archagon]

Zero rational reason?? Are you/they just going to keep going until every bit of input into your/their life is AI-generated?????

[AlexeyBelov]

How I imagine these people: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ulz7r_uA6xc

[alfiedotwtf]

Just wait till you meet your AI GP and Surgeon

[lukan]

Or till that Asimov story happens in real life to you, you are in a room with people arguing about who is AI and who it not - and in the end you were actually the only human left.

[alfiedotwtf]

Sadly what you're describing is online forums and comment discussions these days!

[minikomi]

Would you be willing to share some artists? I'm curious

[jatora]

not OP but i also listen to a large % of AI music as my main now

various genres: https://suno.com/s/Oc5842XzzuBTk4Ma https://suno.com/s/RdmFOKpbi4zyVbRf https://suno.com/s/J4Z8t8jU9JXVJ1DB https://suno.com/s/OhfzCYkmcZhFf1Pk https://suno.com/s/VYHHLW7Hkw2uHjrb https://suno.com/s/cTu7AkoOdAyi0eWz https://suno.com/s/QvOExImOVzo1b2Gl https://suno.com/s/MASINon9lGr9JPLS https://suno.com/s/ujpTfZwVdAKy9W0h https://suno.com/s/DwekDLuEzgyNpYGQ https://suno.com/s/psWqWzDQa6Aq96Pk https://suno.com/s/JEM8G2RxD35ZUpGy

also if you like enders game lol: https://suno.com/s/gQ8eGNgnkfktl0Xq

[nprateem]

OMG, some of those are legit good. That said the AI seems minimally guidable. It seems to ignore three majority of instructions in https://suno.com/song/25b16ab7-bfea-451d-abb3-8b52cdd783d0?s... so I guess like most tools, it's fine if you want to get what you're given but not really control it.

[jatora]

Yep agreed. You can guide it only so much and then you're at the mercy of running it a few times to get the closest match

[minikomi]

Thank you for sharing.

[arcticfox]

Definitely not going to be for everyone or even many people, but here's an example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpSC3XxhRwQ

This genre barely even exists from human artists AFAIK; Blackmore's Night (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8mcqTScQoY) and Celtic Woman (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhW1mh7U6-U) are the closest human examples I can think of to cross-reference against. I like those artists too but they have very few songs even remotely similar.

[bl4ckneon]

I have found that every Ai music model I have tried (tried about 6 of them) can not for the life of it generate any good ambient music or like sad non upbeat music. They all try to revert to some sort of uptempo or beat drop of some sort. They can't just "chill out" so to speak

[jatora]

definitely agreed on ambient music, but not on sad music. suno v5 can do that all day

[nutjob2]

Ask to to generate some music for airports.