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by za3faran 48 days ago
Except that rape is not permitted by their religion's morality laws. This alone is sufficient to be extremely weary of what is reported by pro US/israel sources.
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Iran has political discussion of if they need to rape women before they execute them, with the religious man that Iranians attribute that religious directive to having to make MULTIPLE public statements that he was not calling for women to be raped so that government officials would stop using him as justification to rape.

The founder of islam had multiple sex slaves taken from lands that he conquered by war. Excuse me if I think the religion isn't above rape. That would be like saying mormons don't take advantage of people in MLMs because their religion forbids them from taking advantage of people. Or anything about scientology's requirements of it's followers. It has zero weight. Actions do. The founder and most perfect man in islam raped women openly, was a rapist, his voice on the topic has zero weight to the contrary.

Where is this political discussion exactly? Citation required.

Sex slavery, the one you are thinking of, does not exist in Islam, and is prohibited. No such thing took place. Rape is very clearly prohibited in Islam.

Now I wonder more and more where you are getting your misinformation from.

Easiest/first reference, I'm not deep diving into sex slavery by a holly man right now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_al-Qibtiyya

You can not give consent when you are a prisoner/slave. We recognize this and throw in jail any prison guard who has sex with people under their complete control. It is rape. When a slave has your child it means you raped them. A slave can not give consent just like an inmate in prison can not give consent, a child can not give consent. All such cases are rape. Slaves (of which four are listed here) + sex = sex slavery being commited.

Ibn 'Abbas said: When Maria gave birth to Ibrahim the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said, 'Her son has set her free.

From the very end:

Abu ‘Ubaydah said about Muhammad:

He had four [concubines]: Mariyah, who was the mother of his son Ibraaheem; Rayhaanah; another beautiful slave woman whom he acquired as a prisoner of war; and a slave woman who was given to him by Zaynab bint Jahsh."[35]

That is not a man above raping multiple women or sex slavery. And actions by religious leaders tend to have as much weight as words.

Again not deep diving but an Iranian theologin had to publish multiple letters publically because Iranians were using what he said as justification for raping virgins before execution. He had to publically call out that that is not what he said to stop it from happening. Again first source, I'm not deep diving so don't 'give me a different source'. Anyone that reads this is welcome to google that mans name (Hossein Ali-Montazeri) and the topic. You don't have to explain why 'people need to not rape because of what I said' if people are already... not raping.

https://wncri.org/2015/11/13/female-prisoners-virgins-raped/ https://www.womensvoicesnow.org/films/final-moments

You did not cite sex slavery. Still accusations without basis.

> You can not give consent when you are a prisoner/slave

In Islam you absolutely can, (لا ضرر ولا ضرار) is a core Islamic concept, and I can cite many narrations that further prove this, let alone scholarly consensus and historic accounts.

You are doing the typical fallacy of projecting western nomenclature and behavior onto another culture during a different era. Orientalists and Islamophobes do this all the time.

Rape is not permitted in Islam, and is punishable. End of story. You have so far no brought any evidence. Even the wncri article you posted does no such thing, the headline is clickbait, and the body actually says the opposite. Did you even read what you posted?

Now, on the other hand, rape is very widely used and weaponized and ideologically justified by the israelis against Palestinians, and is extremely well documented for many decades now.

[1] https://x.com/novaramedia/status/2046178399085809773

[2] https://x.com/CensoredHumans/status/2008359532393615580

[3] https://x.com/CensoredHumans/status/2049403131877073175