[notthemessiah]

the author wrote this in the Leaflet comments sections:

"""

through some upsetting turn of events, someone put this on hackernews and started a piranha feeding frenzy of speculation about what / who im referring to here. so just to be clear:

i wrote this bulleted list in a couple minutes as a way to rant about the lack of charity i was noticing in 2 places

- my family, where 2 members aren't speaking to each other for petty reasons, looking for the other to capitulate and admit they're the aggressor

- on bluesky, where users are blaming every outage on "vibe coding"

if you took extra meaning from it, i'm sorry or congrats!

"""

[vanderZwan]

Yeah that pretty much lines up with my expectations - I've seen the type of behavior described both in real life and in various online spaces. Luckily never ticking all of the boxes at once, but they don't need to to cause a lot of needless suffering to themselves and collateral damage to the people around them.

The worst situations usually were if someone with this kind of self-sabotaging coping mechanism for some kind of trauma (because that's what it usually seems to be in my experience) ended up in some kind of moderator position in some on-line community, which they tended to seek out to get more control to cope with their fears.

[doright]

Having lived through intractable family conflict before, I believe it is a good analogy as to why the continual reinvention of social media will be a fruitless endeavour.

Your options when dealing with truly obstinate family memebers in real life? Stop. Give yourself permission to disengage. There isn't another option. (https://issendai.com/psychology/estrangement/missing-missing...)

[cooper_ganglia]

That Bluesky comment snuck up on me and got a good laugh from me!

You mean the fine folks over at Bluesky, the social media network built around isolation, intolerance, and refusing to listen to other’s POV, exhibit these same character flaws?!

Who’d’ve thunk? :)

[bbwbsb]

> assume intent is malicious, ignorant, or amoral

> do not grant grace to those who make mistakes, especially those that you have never met or otherwise spoken to

> do not seek to understand those you do not already understand

Are these not reflected in your comment?

For unrelated reasons (looking up the author of a quote in the bsd fortune file) I was looking at François de La Rochefoucauld's wikipedia page and learned that he wrote this in the intro for his book of maxims on human behavior:

"... the best approach for the reader to take would be to put in his mind right from the start that none of these maxims apply to himself in particular, and that he is the sole exception, even though they appear to be generalities. After that I guarantee that he will be the first to endorse them and he will believe that they do credit to the human spirit."

[notthemessiah]

Your comment amounts to "so much for the tolerant left", and you seem to be projecting qualities of Twitter (under current management) onto Bluesky.

[demux]

Yeah the social media built on an open protocol where data is interoperable across apps isn't quite isolated

[cooper_ganglia]

Ideologically isolated, obviously.

The basis for its existence is to supply a platform for people who want to isolate from ideas and narratives they find uncomfortable, so they self-select into echo chambers that cater to their preexisting ideologies. That's their whole business model!

[notthemessiah]

> platform for people who want to isolate from ideas and narratives they find uncomfortable

Ahh, like how if you say the word "cis" on Twitter, you get banned because the idea that gender is not binary is an idea that the owner of Twitter finds uncomfortable wants to isolate the audience from. So he promotes his own tweets, shoehorns it into peoples feeds and notifications, in order to create an ideological echo chamber. Like that?

[cooper_ganglia]

I just searched Twitter for “cis” and found endless results, including a forgotten tweet of my own from 2+ years ago that’s never been taken down and I haven’t been banned for! :)

Nobody is getting banned for that, that’s just another Bluesky-ism!

[notthemessiah]

So this never happened?

https://techcrunch.com/2024/05/14/on-elons-whim-x-now-treats...

The policy was enacted less than 2 years ago, which is why your previous tweets didn't get affected, and it seems new Twitter owner might have since walked it back. Seems it also only affected mobile app users.

> In November, X ran a “timeline takeover” ad promoting an anti-trans film from PragerU, a conservative media nonprofit that has also been criticized for doubting climate change and downplaying the realities of slavery.

Climate change and the history of slavery... More ideas and narratives that the owner and his allies find threatening and uncomfortable.