[lossolo]

Go to Shenzhen or Shanghai, if that's what communism looks like, then it has already won. A few weeks ago, when I was in Shanghai, I went for a walk and saw more McLarens and Ferraris in a few hours than I've seen in New York, Berlin, and Paris combined.

They're more capitalist than we (the West) ever were. Communism is basically only something that remains in the name of the party. Their version of capitalism just has a lot more state involvement and capital controls, which lets them plan over longer time horizons more successfully and pivot to new priorities much faster.

[blackqueeriroh]

Don’t forget, it also allows them to regularly and consistently jail citizens either zero recourse.

I promise you they wouldn’t be getting released like we have happening in the US.

[Scroll_Swe]

>when I was in Shanghai, I went for a walk and saw more McLarens and Ferraris in a few hours than I've seen in New York, Berlin, and Paris combined.

Sounds awful imo.

Yet when they want beautiful nature and buildnings etc they go here to Europe.

[lossolo]

> Yet when they want beautiful nature and buildnings etc they go here to Europe.

You need to be joking or you never were in T1 city in China.

[pell]

Very much. Try to start a union in China and see how communist that country is. China is essentially a right-wing hypercapitalist country run by a dictatorship.

[breppp]

To be fair, I don't know where starting a union under Mao would get you

[lossolo]

It's funny how this comment (which states nothing but facts) was upvoted and then some poeple were coping with reality by downvoting it.