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by lukan 62 days ago
No, not really. There was a real wolf and the person dusturbed the operation.

"South Korean police have arrested a man for sharing an AI-generated image that misled authorities who were searching for a wolf that had broken out of a zoo in Daejeon city.

The 40-year-old unnamed man is accused of disrupting the search by creating and distributing a fake photo purporting to show Neukgu, the wolf, trotting down a road intersection"

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But there are real wolves when shepherding too. That’s why crying wolf has any power.

To cry wolf is to say there’s a wolf here when it’s actually located elsewhere. The AI photo said there was a wolf at a certain intersection when it was actually located elsewhere.

In fact crying wolf is doubly appropriate because it means disturbing an operation looking for a wolf.

The biggest difference now is wolf is actually sought to protect him¹ from the crowd of the super-predators in town, so they can "give him a calm environment for recovery".

¹ Following pronoun variant used in the fine article here.

Crying wolf is normally starting the operation while there isn‘t a wolf.

This is misdirection while there is a wolf

Similar but different

That's completely pedantic and besides it's false because there literally wasn't a wolf there where he faked the photo in the first place
what if the real criers of wolves were the sheeple we misled along the way?
Crying wolf is crying for help when there is no danger not when there is a danger just at different place.

That's not pedantic, that's the meaning of the idiom.

If you stipulate that everyone must be relaxing at the time, sure. But the core concept of crying wolf is IMO simply a false alert with no particular constraints placed on those responding. I think in this case it simultaneously qualifies as crying wolf as well as misdirection.
But this isn't a false alert. The alert is real, people just got misdirected.
This is real life there's always a danger just at a different place.
le reddit mentality
what an incredibly dumb thread this is. OP pointed out something amusing and it's being ruined by completely useless pedantry
Serious suggestion: we flag responses or have a separate flag for comments which are unnecessarily pedantic / the commenter is functionally illiterate / the commenter didn't read (the three things are somewhat indistinguishable).
I find that building a personal blocklist extension for myself lets me treat such threads as fertile grounds. I no longer get annoyed because I am pleased that I can quickly remove a lot of low quality commenters at once. Recommend writing one for yourself (trivial with LLM).

Original comment was clever and subsequent commenters were uninteresting to me. In this case, I only saw it because I’m on my phone which doesn’t have Chrome extensions. Turns out I’d already blocked them.

Well, I was a bit missled by the original comment, then I read the article, found the case to be a bit different than the tale and posted context. But giving the pedantry nature of HN, I should have probably been more clear in my wording to avoid the debate about meaning of words. Because yes, there is a resemblance to the fable, just not literally the same.
I'm honestly not convinced that it isn't just LLMs going in circles with each other
Welcome to HN, I guess
I think people are just traumatized the content they've consumed from reddit so anything that reminds them of it, such as OP, triggers something in them because HN is starting to feel the same.

Don't even link me to the comment about how this has always been a complaint on HN, it's boring and it isn't the "gotcha" that you think it is.

If this was America there would be 20 think pieces in the Atlantic about how AI is ruining our culture and no one would get arrested.
There was a real wolf in "The Boy Who Cried Wolf", too.
Perhaps you forgot the fable which... features a real wolf.
> the person dusturbed the operation

Did they? The article says it's unclear as to their intent.

> Authorities did not specify if the man had intentionally sent the photo to authorities during their search or simply shared it online.

Intent or not, it did disturb as it misslead. And .. how can one imagine not disturb a search, when posting a wrong location?
Intent or not, disturbing the search or not, it's silly that the authorities would arrest a civilian because of their own incompetence.
That's the true core of the story. Was the man truly trying to mislead authorities or is it more about authorities using the man as a scapegoat to hide their incompetence.
They were searching for a wolf. (Not really a standard task)

They don't have total surveillance, so also rely on public information

- a citicien posts information about the location of the wolf, a picture!

- authorities adopt their search based on that picture

Where is the incompetence here?

I swear, some commenters here think "the government is incompetent" is an axiom and work backward from there to fill in the details.
Everyone involved in this including the police are civilians
Civilians get arrested for incompetence all the time.