[lifeisstillgood]

As a different Brit I do not accept such moral relativism.

China’s governments actions are on a completely different level - for example:

“””

Since 2014, the government of the People's Republic of China has committed a series of ongoing human rights abuses against Uyghurs and other Turkic Muslim minorities in Xinjiang which has often been characterized as persecution or as genocide.

“”” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Uyghurs_in_Chin...

https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/asia-and-the-pacific/eas...

Yes Trump is clearly trying Totalitarianism in America, but it is orders of magnitude different from what is happening in China.

[amunozo]

Why do we ignore all the human right abuses the US perform abroad? Iraq, Afghanistan, now Iran, Gaza and Lebanon through Israel, support to Saudi Arabia (which would not exist without the US), El Salvador... And inside it's also horrible with its treatment to immigrant.

That should be at least comparable (if not worse) than what China is doing.

[OCASMv2]

Yes, El Salvador is so evil for imprisoning dangerous criminals and protecting innocent lives.

[EmiMusso]

El Salvador is blessed by evil criminals put away from the streets. It took thousands of those who you defend for a whole country to be free to enjoy tranquility and security. I was born there and I know better than you calling us evil

[amunozo]

I am not telling that imprisoning the criminals is a bad things, but the conditions in which this has been done and how they're treated in prison is against human rights by any measure.

[culopatin]

The person you responded is agreeing with you.

[dooglius]

Parent was being sarcastic

[samrus]

This is how china tried to justify its genocide against uighers. Was theboutrage against that just politically motivated? Or do americans only care about ethnic cleansing when theyre not the ones doing it

[amunozo]

They also don't care when done by their allies.

[amunozo]

Not for imprisoning, but for imprisoning them in draconian conditions, without proper judgements, etc. Have you seen those prisons for fuck sake?

[tw1984]

It is just shocking to hear such stuff from someone in the UK.

[phatfish]

The US supports the genocide in Gaza, it supports the bombing of Lebanon. The US itself has now started (another) war and bombed Iran.

China is repressing the Uyghur and threatening Taiwan. I don't agree with these actions but is really "orders of magnitude" worse than the destruction the US facilitates in the Middle East?

With Trump they are now openly hostile to European democracies, and ICE and doing their best at repression within the US.

[chronc6393]

> The US supports the genocide in Gaza, it supports the bombing of Lebanon. The US itself has now started (another) war and bombed Iran.

> With Trump they are now openly hostile to European democracies, and ICE and doing their best at repression within the US.

And what is Europe going to do about it?

Boycott ChatGPT and Claude? Ha.

[ifwinterco]

That isn't really the point though, of course the UK can't stop these things by itself.

The point is US "soft power" is eroding incredibly rapidly and this will have consequences

[8note]

europe+canada put out the threat, and succeeded just by threatening.

if you missed it thats on you

[abacadaba]

Yes, because the U.S. action in the ME is a fully justified gift to the world and Israel has every right to act in self defense.

The European democracies are basically failed states at this point and I just hope we don't end up like them.

[cedws]

There’s little to no evidence of such “genocide”, but I can go on YouTube to watch videos of the US bombing civilians in the Middle East.

[wallst07]

China is much better at hiding anything negative.

It's a little insane to me people comparing negatives of US and China. I mean, the simple fact we're allowed to say just about anything we want that is critical of the administration on this forum, in English and nothing happens is clear there is no comparison.

You have no idea the full breadth of the Chinese government because information is closed so quickly, in America it's all on display right in front.