[sirwhinesalot]

There is good quality stuff at Microsoft, it's just on some of the innards.

NT Kernel, Direct3D, .NET Runtime. Also a lot of stuff that came out of Microsoft Research like Z3.

Which also happen to be the sort of projects older devs would normally be working on.

[cromka]

That was exactly my point. Old C++ Microsoft was good. New Electron Microsoft is shite.