[rohanm93]

This is shockingly cheap for a near frontier model. This is insane.

For context, for an agent we're working on, we're using 5-mini, which is $2/1m tokens. This is $0.30/1m tokens. And it's Opus 4.6 level - this can't be real.

I am uncomfortable about sending user data which may contain PII to their servers in China so I won't be using this as appealing as it sounds. I need this to come to a US-hosted environment at an equivalent price.

Hosting this on my own + renting GPUs is much more expensive than DeepSeek's quoted price, so not an option.

[esperent]

> I am uncomfortable about sending user data which may contain PII to their servers in China

As a European I feel deeply uncomfortable about sending data to US companies where I know for sure that the government has access to it.

I also feel uncomfortable sending it to China.

If you'd asked me ten years ago which one made me more uncomfortable. China.

But now I'm not so sure, in fact I'm starting to lean towards the US as being the major risk.

[tiahura]

The chances of my bank account getting hacked due to the PLA backdoor in Deepseek is higher than the CIA backdoor in OpenAI.

[fractalf]

Right now Im much more worried about sending data to the US and A.. At least theres a less chanse it will be missused against -me-

[powerapple]

OpenAI released a privacy filter model https://openai.com/index/introducing-openai-privacy-filter . It is small enough to run locally, I would pass my request through it first before sending to any apis.

[swiftcoder]

> For context, for an agent we're working on, we're using 5-mini, which is $2/1m tokens. This is $0.30/1m tokens. And it's Opus 4.6 level - this can't be real.

It's doesn't seem all that out there compared to the other Chinese model price/performance? Kimi2.6 is cheaper even than this, and is pretty close in performance

[rohanm93]

Kimi is indeed somewhat cheap for frontier-level intelligence, but still is $4-5 per mm tokens. Deep Seek is at least an order of magnitude cheaper.

[swiftcoder]

Oh, right you are. I misread where the decimal place was in the Deepseek pricing. That is incredibly cheap

[gordonhart]

Since it's open weights it'll be available on AWS Bedrock soon(ish), likely at a higher price than the official API but still coming in under those GPT-5-mini prices.

[rohanm93]

Interesting, thanks. I'll keep an eye out.