[geodel]

Doing Kubernetes like doing Agile is mandatory nowadays. I've been asked to package a 20 line worth of bash script as docker image so it can be delivered via CI/CD pipeline via Kubernetes pods in cloud.

Value is not that I got job done at a day's notice. It is black mark that I couldn't package it as per industry best practices.

Not doing would mean out of job/work. Whether it is happening correctly is not something decision makers care as long it is getting done anyhow.

[jauntywundrkind]

I don't think there are any other industry best practices you could have followed.

That's basically why k8s is so compelling. It's tech is fine but it's a social technology that is known and can be rallied behind, that has consistent patterns that apply to anything you might dream of making "cloud native". What you did to get this script available for use will closely mirror how anyone else would also get any piece of software available.

Meanwhile conventional sys-op stuff was cobbling together "right sized" solutions that work well for the company, maybe. These threads are overrun with "you might not need k8s" and "use the solution that fits your needs", but man, I pity the companies doing their own frontiers-ing to explore their own bespoke "simple" paths.

I do think you are on to something with there not being food taste making, with not good oversight always.

[necovek]

In my 20+ years in the industry, I've been at one company which really did Agile, and that was the one I started with.

Everyone else is communicating they are doing Agile while being very far away from it ;)

[bdangubic]

if anyone knew what agile is maybe more would have a chance if making it work (it won’t). in my 30* the only “process” that worked and works is “hire the right people and get the F out of the way.”

[necovek]

That's pretty much what agile is :)

[chickensong]

It depends on your situation of course, but there are a lot of good reasons to package up that bash script and run it through the pipeline. If everyone does some backdoor deployment of their snowflake shell script that's not great. It doesn't matter if it's 20 lines or 2 lines.

[radlad]

There are many organizations which still ship software without Kubernetes. Perhaps even the vast majority.

[geodel]

Of course. I used to think I am working for one such organization for long time. Until leadership decided "modernization" as top priority for IT teams as we are lagging far.