[switchbak]

I’m not being anti-intellectual, I’m being anti-elitist and anti-obfuscation.

It’s not the science and intellect I take issue with, engineering has plenty of that. It’s the art-adjacent navel gazing post modern bullshit I don’t like.

[dwb]

Well I think that art is good, thinking about design is good, that using a couple of terms that aren’t immediately clear to you isn’t “obfuscation”, and that postmodernism can be a useful analytical lens. Seeing the world only through science and engineering (as useful as they can be when applied well) is cold, dead, and sad.

[switchbak]

Well, I think that typically 90% of engineering is bullshit, that 90% of everything is almost always bullshit, and that 90% of the high minded nonsense you're talking about can be tossed with no loss whatsoever.

The other 10% of the design world? Actual useful, and can help create truly better things. And typically offered honestly because there really is something of substance being shared. To be clear: there can be tremendous value in the design world.

And nice false dichotomy there - if someone disagrees with the snooty extravagances of the design world, then they only care about science and engineering. That is not what I said, and your twisting of my statements is either a shallow read or disingenuous.

[dwb]

I can only read as deep as what is written. I have a low opinion of anyone who dismisses “snooty extravagances” of any field – it’s incurious and disrespectful. Either admit you don’t know enough to engage, or read up and engage on the substance.