[jkukul]

> I ended up saying goodbye to those devops folks,

The irony is that "DevOps" was supposed to be a culture and a set of practices, not a job title. The tools that came with it (=Kubernetes) turned out to be so complex that most developers didn't want to deal with them and the DevOps became a siloed role that the movement was trying to eliminate.

That's why I have an ick when someone uses devops as a job title. Just say "System Admin" or "Infrastrcutre Engineer". Admit that you failed to eliminate the siloes.

[icedchai]

Yep, "Cloud Infrastructure Engineer" is what I prefer.

I am primarily a backend developer but I do a lot of ops / infra work because nobody else wants to do it. I stay as far away from k8s as possible.