[oceansky]

That's the last thing big tech companies want. Maybe Meta being the odd exception with Llama.

[rienbdj]

Meta wants the models to be cheap and available because their strength is the context data and platform control.

[mamcx]

The TOTAL opposite!

Getting free labour, lipstick of "freedom", and enable to put millions invested in what open source never can do: Scaling, infra, win big contracts, etc.

Open Source NEVER win the market game.

It only give consolation to few that can run things locally.

[awestroke]

Meta is not in the AI game any more

[tim333]

LLM Arena has them at #3 on the overview, behind Anthropic and Google, ahead of Grok and OpenAI.

[pjc50]

Didn't they just announce they were going to be surveilling all their employees screens and keystrokes for AI training? Is that just for the love of the game rather than as part of a product?

[oceansky]

That's probably just for internal metrics, automating dev work and facilitate stack ranking. Not to release a product necessarily.

[oceansky]

Just saw Zuckerberg post from July 2025 saying they are going to be "careful" with what they release.

[trvz]

1) In the AI world, that's a very long time ago

2) That still equates to "Meta is not in the AI game any more" in meta-corporate speak

[oceansky]

Yes, point two is what I meant.

[insane_dreamer]

Apple, at least at present.