[Thanemate]

I know that "resume-driven development" exists, where the tradeoffs between approaches aren't about the technical fit of the solution but the career trajectory. I've seen people making plain workstation preparation scripts using Rust, only to have something to flex about in interviews.

I'm not surprised even in the slightest that DevOps workers will slap k8s on everything, to show "real industry experience" in a job market where the resume matches the tools.

[capitol_]

Your first example sound very sensible to me?

Using new technology in something small and unimportant like a setup script is a perfect way to experiment and learn. It would be irresponsible to build something important as the first thing you do in a new language.

[bananamogul]

For your own use, yes.

But if you're working with others, you should default to using standard industry tools (absent a compelling reason not to) because your work will be handed off to others and passed on to new team members. It's unreasonable to expect that a new Windows or Linux sysadmin or desktop support tech must learn Rust to maintain a workstation setup workflow.

[r_lee]

agreed. I think if we all went with this HN mindset of "html4 and PHP work just fine" we wouldn't have gone anywhere with regards to all the technical advancements we enjoy today in the software space

[JALTU]

We are building a religion, we are building it bigger We are widening the corridors and adding more lanes We are building a religion, a limited edition We are now accepting coders linking new AI brains

(Apologies to Cake. And coders.)

[ororoo]

there are alsp people with devops title that do not know anything else than the hammer, and then everything is a hammer problem.

I mean, I worked with people who were suprised that you can run more applications inside ec2 vm than just 1 app.

[tete]

> there are alsp people with devops title that do not know anything else than the hammer, and then everything is a hammer problem.

To be fair though, that's true for every profession or skill.

> I mean, I worked with people who were suprised that you can run more applications inside ec2 vm than just 1 app.

I've seen something similar where people were surprised that you can use an object storage (so effectively "make HTTP requests") from every server.

[jauntywundrkind]

Conversely, we had millions of server huggers before, who each knew their company's stuff in a way that wasn't really applicable if they went somewhere else.

Every company used to have a bespoke collection of build, deployment, monitoring, scaling, etc concerns. Everyone had their own practices, their own wikis to try to make sense of what they had.

I think we critically under-appreciate that k8s is a social technology that is broadly applicable. Not just for hosting containers, but as a cloud-native form of thinking, where it becomes much easier to ask: what do we have here, and is it running well, and to have systems that are helping you keep that all on track (autonomic behavior/control loops).

I see such rebellion & disdain for where we are now, but so few people who seem able to recognize and grapple with what absolute muck we so recently have crawled out of.