[jtr1]

This is appalling and I agree the technology is creepy. However, human verification is already a big problem that seems like it will only grow from here.

It does seem to me that this should be solvable at the device level by having a biometric scan produce a signed key on your device that can be used to issue a token of authenticity, similar to the way payment systems or certificate authorities work.

Then again, this only intensifies a different, growing problem where access to a smartphone or computer becomes a basic requirement for participation in society. No easy answers.

[ulrikrasmussen]

And not only that, it intensifies the problem where access to a smartphone or computer which can perform remote attestation becomes a basic requirement for participation in society. Slowly but surely, free and open source hardware and operating systems are going to become irrelevant as the daily drivers of people's lives because they are not produced or verified by the certificate authorities. Everyone is going to access digital society through the cloud terminals rented from Google and Apple.

[tim333]

Maybe you could have humans verify other accounts who want anonymity? Like I'd be willing to say jtr1 seems human and also don't mind verifying with a passport scan as I'm not personally that bothered by the anonymity thing. You could perhaps cap the number of vouches per scan to stop me vouching for 10^10 bots or some such.

[cucumber3732842]

> where access to a smartphone or computer becomes a basic requirement for participation in society

Seems like a smaller evil than a lot of the other stuff being floated TBH

[kjkjadksj]

Local post office posts a one time key every day on the door. You enter this key as proof you were a human who got this information from the meatspace.

[floren]

I pay a guy $20 a day to walk to the local post office and text me a picture of the key, which I then use to spin up my thousand new bots for the day.

[sofixa]

Each user has to have a unique key.

Or the keys are short lived, generated by an app reading your real physical ID.