[impulser_]

Cursor is still the best coding environment and hardness. It's actually not really close. They are so good that they actually made Gemini usable.

The problem is they can't compete with Anthropic and OpenAI because they can't sell Opus and GPT at a discount to subscribers like OpenAI and Anthropic do with their subscriptions.

So they either need to build a competing model or slowly die.

[goolz]

I personally disagree on the first point. Claude code in a terminal with vim is much nicer. I just don’t see the need for the bloat of an IDE when the CLI versions work so damn well now.

[impulser_]

They have Cursor CLI.

Cursor is essentially all the Claude Code products but without the horrible bugs of Claude Code products.

You can transfer from CLI to web and it actually works.

[bakies]

And Claude can use CLI too. It's the perfect environment for coding agents.

[dzhiurgis]

> They are so good that they actually made Gemini usable

I think Gemini is best model out there, and it's not Cursor who you should praise. I use it with jetbrains junie. Vastly cheaper than claude, faster, produces better quality code, actually listens to your instructions, more accurate. I'm sure claude code cli has some cli magic that I'm missing out on, but having everything just work in a nice IDE (and llm to actually understand your symbol table) is like magic.

[smartbit]

Are you using Gemini 3.1 Pro? Subscription or paying for the tokens?

[dzhiurgis]

Tried 3.1 pro preview today a little bit, definitely blowing thru credits quicker, not sure about being better quality, but achieved all tasks perfectly.

IDK how Junie does it, but I spend less than $50 USD per month and I'm on it 30 hours per week.

[tootie]

Bet they will become tied to grok pretty soon.

[sippeangelo]

That's why I'm so puzzled to why Composer doesn't work better when they have the ability to train it from scratch for their agent harness! Yet it still fails to apply edits, gets confused why it can't call some commands in its sandbox, the list goes on...

[muyuu]

They seemed to be doing fine with Kimi distillation. Not speaking from experience though, I prefer to use my editor.