[Yizahi]

LLM monsters are deeply unprofitable, going by the industry hearsay (which is the only thing we have, given ultra secrecy of the LLM corporations). The only two LLM companies which disclosed their finances without lies, were two Chinese corporations and they, unsurprisingly, were deeply in red.

Remember the old saying about boiling a frog? LLM corporations need to make most of their users pay hundreds per month, asap. This is Anthropic increasing temperature regulator under the pot just a tiny little bit. Not the first and not the last time.

[andrekandre]

  > LLM corporations need to make most of their users pay hundreds per month, asap.

it would explain why tech is so hard on forcing it down everyones throats (need to get that scale asap and hope it holds)

[manoDev]

Their price point goal is a SWE salary.

[HWR_14]

I assume the Chinese corporations can operate in the red forever and be subsidized by the Chinese government.

[simoncion]

That's true of any company in any country. If you can convince the government that your company is sufficiently important, you can get subsidized.

[HWR_14]

My point was that the AI companies in China have already convinced the government to subsidize them.

[simoncion]

Tax breaks, fee reductions/waivers, direct monetary incentives, and shielding from "unfavorable" regulation -whether local, state, or national- are all subsidies. Hell, depending on the particulars, government contracts can be subsidies... there's more than one government engineering project out there that could be reasonably referred to as a "jobs program for PhDs", and still more that are corporate handouts.

Every business believed by its "home" government to be sufficiently important gets subsidies when it asks for them... regardless of what nation houses that government. If your claim is that the major players in the "AI" industry aren't getting subsidies from local, state, and national governments in the US, then my claim is that you are lying.

[allarm]

Good for them.