[dktp]

One interesting thing I found comparing OpenAI and Gemini image editing is - Gemini rejects anything involving a well known person. Anything. OpenAI is happy to edit and change every time I tried

I have a sideproject where I want to display standup comedies. I thought I could edit standup comedy posters with some AI to fit my design. Gemini straight up refuses to change any image of any standup comedy poster involving a well know human. OpenAI does not care and is happy to edit away

[Melatonic]

How does it determine they are well known and not just similar looking?

[yreg]

Gemini often rejects photos of random people (even ones it generated itself) because it thinks they look too similar to some well known person.

[dktp]

I don't know tbh. I've tried it on 10-20 various level of famous standups and Gemini refuses every time

Just for testing, I just tried this https://i.ytimg.com/vi/_KJdP4FLGTo/sddefault.jpg ("Redesign this image in a brutalist graphic design style"). Gemini refuses (api as well as UI), OpenAI does it

[arjie]

It's not super deterministic but it didn't fail once on my attempts. See: https://imgur.com/a/james-acaster-cold-lasagne-1R7fpzQ

[dktp]

Very interesting. It fails every single time for me. I'm in Germany, maybe Google is stricter here?

See https://imgur.com/a/77BRDQv

[arjie]

That makes sense to me. I just Googled around like a fool and got here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personality_rights#Germany

It seems like they're trying to follow local law. What a nightmare to have to manage all jurisdictions around such a product. Surprised it didn't kill image generation entirely.

[jliptzin]

Yea, especially when they know all that work will be completely pointless in a few years when open source / local models will be just as good and won't have any legal limitations, so people will be generating fake images of famous people like crazy with nothing stopping them

[Melatonic]

What if you change the prompt to tell it specifically its not a famous person? Or try it without text?

[BoorishBears]

There are models specifically for detecting well known people https://docs.aws.amazon.com/rekognition/latest/dg/celebritie...

[qingcharles]

OpenAI wouldn't make me a Looney Tunes Roadrunner Martin Scorsese "Absolute Cinema" parody, but Gemini didn't blink about the trademark violation. Also, the output was really nice:

https://imgur.com/a/Jclezyi

[vunderba]

Are you using Google Gemini directly? I've found the Vertex API seems to be significantly less strict.