[niteshpant]

These are cool laptops. But, after getting a decent config (32gb ram, 1tb ssd, 7 series chip), the price is ~$2300. At that point, a MacBook Pro seems like a better choice. I'd not want to develop on anything less than that config. The selling point seems to be the Linux + Framework brand + highly customizable machine you can actually own

I've always wondered if these laptops can scale beyond the enthusiast group. If so, how?

[vizzier]

14" macbook pro with those specs is ~2100. 200 dollar delta for repair-ability seems acceptable to me.

[stavros]

I'd pay $200 to run Linux. The repairability is a bonus.

[CarVac]

It's $200 cheaper than that for that configuration with Linux instead, only $2100.

[stavros]

Oooh, no contest then. I'm definitely getting one to replace my previous Framework.

[beepbooptheory]

I am sure many will jump in here to talk about the upgradability story, but for me personally I do not think of Macbooks as a serious alternative either way. Even if I could get over not being able to replace my hard drive or RAM, I would still have to be OK using a proprietary OS I can't control, designed by people who just want to keep extracting my money ultimately.

Having something called an "App Store" on my personal laptop I can't remove.. I'd deal with having 4gb of RAM before I lived that reality.

[m463]

This is a tough one because a macbook pro hooks you into the apple ecosystem and makes apple money. Let alone the macbook neo.

This is like the really cheap televisions that harvest your data for profit.

How can you compete/compare against vizio if it makes more on your data than on the television?

[jim33442]

So I got a 13" MacBook Air recently. It didn't require me to log into iCloud, but I did cause I wanted some things synced, which is free cause I'm not uploading photos. I don't buy anything from the Mac App Store cause why. The OS lets me run anything I want on it. The hardware technically doesn't care what OS it runs, though nothing else really works unless you count Asahi. In what way am I locked into generating them more money?

[vvpan]

But you can upgrade it later by swapping parts and not buying a new machine, so it should be cheaper in the long run.