[dahcryn]

the M line of macbook pro's are beautiful, well crafted, long lasting machines.

MacOS might not be your preferred way of working, and you might prefer cheaper options or USB-A ports, but there is really nothing you could arguably call bad craftmanship in those machines.

[inatreecrown2]

>> nothing you could arguably call bad craftmanship in those machines

my 2 bad craftsmanship cents:

laptop keyboard leaves marks on screen. laptop's sharp edges leaves marks on wrists.

[alsetmusic]

> laptop keyboard leaves marks on screen.

I don't think this has been a thing in years.

Sharp edges on wrists is true.

[CamouflagedKiwi]

It definitely is a thing on my M2. Unsure if it is something that was fixed in the later models.

My wrists, conversely, are fine, but I suppose I rarely use it in a 'classic' desk position that would cause that.

[hrimfaxi]

My 2023 MBP's keyboard leaves marks on the screen while closed.

[k12sosse]

..from the company that brought you "You're holding it wrong", not just bad but dumb

[rpdillon]

In addition to the sibling comment, I would point out the touch bar was poor craftsmanship and the butterfly keyboard was also poor craftsmanship. They both are addressed now, but there were several years where we had to live with them.

Their software craftsmanship has really suffered in the last 10 years.

[naravara]

I thought the touchbar was pretty neat, it was just a mistake to replace the function row with them. It also was hard to get adoption because it wasn’t available on desktop Macs or their cheaper laptops so developers had no incentive to really do anything interesting with them.

I think a better implementation might have been to have it be an alternate mode for the trackpad and sell external trackpads that also had it so it could be used everywhere. But I get why that didn’t happen, the touchbar was basically being run with a mini Apple Watch SOC built into the MacBook Pro, and it’s primary use was to have the Secure Enclave on it. The touchbar itself was a deal where they could find a use for having an otherwise idle smartwatch’s worth of computing power in there, but that wouldn’t be doable if it’s sold as an external device.

[diegolas]

they're very well designed and built products, craftmanship is something else.

[choudharism]

What is it?

[carlosjobim]

They are mass produced in factories, not made by craftsmen.

[hansvm]

I mean, they're not bad, but they have spicy chargers, the corners are uncomfortably sharp, the keyboard often doesn't register, the LCD is prone to vertical bars and other issues even without physical damage and is extremely sensitive to bumps and other minor damage elsewhere on the laptop (not even the display itself), and so on.

[pxc]

Some of these are consequences of what makes them feel "premium" or even "solid". Aluminum is a terrible material for bumps and drops because it dents, and that often damages the internal components.