[gozucito]

The reality of losing TSMC is no joke either. I remember Covid times when many G20 leaders went to Taiwan begging for some chips so that they could keep exporting cars and other things that need computer chips.

[carefree-bob]

What do you mean by "losing TSMC"? It's not ours.

Do you know what does belong to the west? ASML. What makes TSMC actually work.

[poszlem]

ASML is not "yours" too in that case as it happens to be european.

[carefree-bob]

ASML's largest shareholder is Intel, and they rely on a supply chain from American, German, and other western European countries, all on the US leash.

But more importantly, ASML does exactly what America tells them to do.

And Europe for the most part does as well.

Sorry, I wish Europe had the fortitude to not be subordinated to the US, but that's how it is.

[vanviegen]

Intel does not hold a significant share in ASML anymore.

I agree that the US has other 'western' countries 'on a leash'. That used to be an arrangement that was mutually beneficial...

[tick_tock_tick]

I mean it's literally beholden to the USA congress and it's most meaningful parts are made in the USA. There is a reason why they fall in line with every USA export control and restriction.

If ASML is Europe's then I'd say all of Europe is the USA's.

[vanviegen]

> it's literally beholden to the USA congress

Could you explain what you mean by that?