[smeeth]

I'm quite curious what Tim Cook's legacy will end up being.

There is no question many of Apple's business experienced significant, impressive growth during his tenure. Amazing capital efficiency.

There is also no question Apple lost product velocity. Few new products were launched, and those that were had mixed success.

Tim was, at the end of the day, an elite financial operator. Apple shareholders were lucky to have him. Customers like myself probably have mixed opinions, and it remains to be seen how he set the company up for the future.

[tptacek]

Things he effectively presided over:

* Apple Silicon, the most far-reaching technical transformation in the company's history (probably a bigger deal than macOS itself)

* Apple Pay

* The Watch and Airpods product categories, both of which Apple now dominates.

All while holding on to its position in phones and improving (drastically) its computers.

It feels like a pretty successful term.

[smeeth]

Tim was a great CEO.

I'm just pointing out product velocity slowed. I'm far from the first person to say it, it's just a fact. In the five years before Cook we got first generation Apple TV, iPhone, iPad, and MacBook Air. Your list spans 14 years.

[dwaite]

One could add the Vision Pro, MacBook Neo, Mac Studio, HomePods, and so on to the list as well.

The reality is everyone just wants another hit product like the iPhone, but its success was based on it being a personal convergence device. You can't really create a second carryable/wearable convergence device and expect it to be wildly successful at the level of the iPhone without it killing off the iPhone.

So far that revolutionary approach by third parties has not succeeded against the iPhone, and the evolutionary approach apple takes with the iPhone means there is no clear inflection point anywhere in the future where the phone form factor goes away.

[carefree-bob]

Yes, a very successful CEO and he secured a great legacy. I was skeptical when Jobs stepped down, but under Cook innovation did continue, but primarily in hardware.

[caycep]

Also the discipline in not blowing massive R&D chasing AI; but having the machines/architecture best suited to said AI...

[fckgw]

> Few new products were launched, and those that were had mixed success.

Tim oversaw the launch of the Apple Watch, Airpods, Airtags, Apple Pay, the Beats acquisition (which lead to Apple Music) and the launch of the M series chips.

He's had quite a few product launches under his belt, many of them company-defining products.

[kube-system]

The M series transition was perfectly executed, but that trajectory was set up before Jobs left when they went all-in on in-house semiconductor design.

[basisword]

Come on. Attributing a product to a guy that died 15 years ago instead of the guy running the company for the last 15 years is absurd.

[kube-system]

Apple released their first in-house ARM processor 16 years ago, and the M series is descendent from that lineage and acquisitions that got them started in that business such as PA Semi and Intrinsity.

Cook absolutely deserves credit for the successful desktop ARM transition, but building ARM processors in-house was in no way something he directed as CEO.

[wpm]

PA Semi was acquired in 2008.

Jobs was likely very burned out on IBM failing to deliver a 3Ghz PowerPC G5 and one with a low enough TDP for a PowerBook.

So he switches to Intel because he needs chips, but the vulnerability still exists, and it's what happened again after the Skylake launch and the ensuing 4 years of terrible Macs designed for silicon that didn't exist.

Steve saw the danger, and probably acquired PA Semi because of it as well as the fact that PA Semi actually did deliver a power efficient PowerPC G5, even if it was a bit late.

Steve had the vision. Cook executed it very well. They both deserve credit.

[oldnetguy]

His legacy is he used Apple to help build China into a technological powerhouse at the expense of American workers.

https://www.npr.org/sections/planet-money/2025/06/17/g-s1-72...

[j16sdiz]

Can you say the same for tesla or cisco?

[oldnetguy]

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/23/opinion/apple-tim-cook-ou...

[oldnetguy]

Not to the same scale but yes. At least there are Teslas still made here.

With Apple it's the scale of what was done.

[ebbi]

That's a pretty reductive take.

[oldnetguy]

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/23/opinion/apple-tim-cook-ou...

[drowntoge]

To me, Tim Cook has turned Apple into a company that is both “doing amazingly well” and “in urgent need of a radical change in direction” at the same time.

We’ll see how the new CEO sees it.

[lunarboy]

FaceID, AirPods, Apple Silicon, Vision Pro (though it was flop was a good try). Overall, I would actually place Tim above Steve in terms of business, although maybe not from a Human Computer Interaction design novelty perspective

[8avo]

Tim Cook is a businessman who made the company bigger than Jobs could.

But he is not an aestheticist as much as Jobs was. See how Cook has been destroying the faces of iPhones and Macs, which had a huge dent or what is ironically called a "dynamic" island on the top of the screen. Back of iPhones is desparetely ugly.

Also he has not been presenting what makes us exicted. Apple's Siri is forgotten so that he has to rely on Google's Gemini instead of developing their own. While Samsung's Galaxy has been deploying its 7th foldable phone, Apple has done none. Leaks are usual so we can tell what he will show at its annual conference well before he acutually does and it gives us no surprise at all.

In a short term, "what Cook's Apple has innovated?" -- I guess zero. Rather, deteriorated.

As a long-standing user who started computer life with Performa 5220, keep using Macs as main machines and now run M3 MAX Macbook Pro to develop web apps, current Apple is never what I think it should be.

Making the company bigger is great. But what about their products and services? These are also where Cook has been leading to. He seems to forget Job's aphorism, "Stay hungry, stay foolish."

So I hope the new CEO changes the course.

[basisword]

>> Few new products were launched

I don't think this is true. Apple Watch is basically in a market of its own. iPad might have existed before Cook but he turned it into something people actually use for stuff. Vision Pro may not be a financial success but the tech is impressive and it's clear that work will pay off in the near term in other wearables. Apple Silicon is a phenomenal success. Apple TV is no longer a hobby and he's been at the helm while they've developed their entire services business. AirPods rule the headphone market. Not mention the numerous Mac variants he presided over.

[shrubble]

What did they shut down? Aperture comes to mind, anything else?

[jshier]

Many of their acquired pro tools, and pretty much all of their server hardware and software, though much of that started before Cook took over. Plus the Mac Pro missteps were on his watch, as well as the current cancellation. Apple seems more and more unwilling to invest in niche hardware like the Mac Pro, except where they see it pushing the platform forward, like the Vision Pro.