[UncleOxidant]

Not entirely true. Google released Gemma 4 models recently. Allen AI releases open Olmo models. However, you're right that the Chinese open models seem to be much better than others - Qwen 3.* models especially are punching above their weights.

[osiris970]

The three American labs don't release big open source models. Except gpt-oss, i guess. It's an absolute shame how far the us has fallen in this space.

[nullbyte]

Anthropic doesn't, but Google and OAI both release open source models. Just not 1T parameter ones.

[osiris970]

Exactly, they release cool consumer stuff, but they aren't releasing anything close to the performance of the best open weight Chinese models. They basically compete in the "fun running at home doing basic stuff" scene. (Except OSs 120 by openai but it's been ages since then)

[Zetaphor]

That sentence is giving OpenAI way more credit than they are due.

They released a single open model after being goaded by the community because everyone except "Open"AI were multiple generations into open releases.

We haven't heard a word since, I wouldn't be surprised if it takes them another 6 years to release their next one.

[0-_-0]

Pun intended?