[__MatrixMan__]

They way they've published hashes of the bugs it has found so that once those bugs are fixed they can responsibly disclose them while also proving that they weren't lying... that displays a willingness to dabble in evidence which is far beyond anything OpenAI has done to support their claims.

[j-bos]

This. I see much cheap naysaying without referenece to the vuln hashes. If it is smoke and mirrors, then the naysayers should loudly shout down the specific hashes and when they get revealed, or don't, then they will have done a great service to dissuading fake claims to world changing tech.

[badgersnake]

It proves that at least some of the bugs exist, not that you need “new thing” to find them or that they even used “new thing” to find them.

There was a story the other day about others finding the same bugs with qwen.

[__MatrixMan__]

Certainly. As evidence goes it's a tremendously limited strategy. But the bar for such things is pretty low right now, so it doesn't take much to outdo the others by quite a lot.