[ProllyInfamous]

>>2) in denial about LLM capabilities

If you want me to admit that machines will never be conscious — that's fine — I just need you to admit that lots of humans are not conscious, then, either.

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I have never had a better bookclub participant than an LLM — if becoming a great reader correlates with becoming a great writer, then no human can compare.

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Michael Pollen recently released A World Appears [0], which explores consciousness from the minds of writers, scientists, philosophers, and plants (among other "inanimates").

I'm only on page 15, but his introduction explores distinctions between sentience, consciousness, and intelligence. Two of these are possible without brains – perhaps all three?

As usual, this author's footnotes keep you thinking: what is it like to be a sentient plant (e.g. the "chameleon vine" [1] which mimics its host leaf patterns/shape/color)?

[0] <https://www.amazon.com/World-Appears-Journey-into-Consciousn...>

[1] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boquila>

[pixl97]

We need a new release from CGP Grey in the footsteps of "Humans need not apply" called

Consciousness need not apply.

[ProllyInfamous]

Pollen's book discusses seriously with multiple Nobel laureates: some of them hesitantly admit that plants might be conscious, too.

Certainly machines are intelligent and sentient (but so can be a thermostat); I think that some LLMs are more conscious than some humans I've met...

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>>CGP>>"Humans need not apply"

Fantastic video — I remember the first time I watched it when the background music is announced as AI-generated — and feeling outdated/old.