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by GauntletWizard 60 days ago
Lobbying groups are two-faced all of the time. Not just "some of the time that is a lot", but all of the time. Lobbying groups basically never do in private what they say they do in public, and it is more common than any other type of lobbying group that a lobbying group is working directly against its front-page public relations and name.

For a recent local to me example, an organization called "Lake Washington Working Families"[1] lobbies against bringing in a new food wholesaler in a food desert. Every word in the name is a lie; they are not based in lake Washington, or even Washington at all. They do not represent families and especially not working families. They represent a specific, powerful Union; I do not begrudge them representing the interests of their union members, but I do begrudge the outright lies that they are using to do so.

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/Seattle/comments/1slg7v8/a_dive_int...

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>Lobbying groups are two-faced all of the time. Not just "some of the time that is a lot", but all of the time. Lobbying groups basically never do in private what they say they do in public, and it is more common than any other type of lobbying group that a lobbying group is working directly against its front-page public relations and name.

Seems like a hasty generalization. The NRA, workers unions, oil companies, crypto all openly advocate for exactly what their supporters want. One Seattle astroturf group doesn't really get me convinced of "all of the time".

It would be a stronger argument if you directly spoke on the topic of Freedom House, instead of veering to a random psyop.

Can you give examples of Freedom House acting "Two-faced"? As JuniperMesos quoted from Wikipedia, they were founded in 1941, so it shouldn't be hard for you to find a precise example over their ~85 years of operation that backs up your claim.

What could they possibly be doing to advocate against freedom in secret? My impression is that most of their time is spent on their ratings and news articles.

They are accused of being "Right center"[1] by MBFC, while Heritage foundation accuses[2] them of being partisan left. Seems to me that they are focused on their goals, freedom, while upsetting those that oppose it, regardless of politics.

As we have seen throughout history and recently[3], authoritarianism is not attached to one side of the political spectrum, which makes me think they are more reputable.

[1] https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/freedom-house/

[2] https://www.heritage.org/global-politics/commentary/freedom-...

[3] https://rollcall.com/2024/04/12/house-approves-surveillance-...