[0xmattf]

> The only reason to dramatically overpay for the hosting resources they provide is because you expect them to expertly manage security and stability.

This and because it's so convenient to click some buttons and have your application running. I've stopped being lazy, though. Moved everything from Render to linode. I was paying render $50+/month. Now I'm paying $3-5.

I would never use one of those hosting providers again.

[nightski]

Looking at linode, those prices get you an instance with 1Gb of ram and a mediocre CPU. So you are running all of your applications on that?

[0xmattf]

Personal projects/MVPs/small projects? Absolutely. For what I'm running, there's no reason to need anything beyond that.

The point is, I used to just throw everything up on a PaaS. Heroku/Render, etc. and pay way more than I needed to, even if I had 0 users, lol.

[lelanthran]

> Looking at linode, those prices get you an instance with 1Gb of ram and a mediocre CPU. So you are running all of your applications on that?

I ran a LoB webapp for multiple companies on a similar setup. Turns out 1GB of RAM is insufficient to run even the most trivial Java webapps, like Jenkins, but is more than sufficient for even non-trivial things using Go + PostgreSQL.

Your stack may be slow, not the machine.

[Orygin]

Most of my services run with 1vCPU and 512Mb of ram. You don't need huge specs for most normal applications.

[adhamsalama]

For $3.5, Hetzner gives 2 vCPU, 4GB RAM, 40 GB SSD, and 10 TB of bandwidth.

[eatery1234]

Pretty oversold iirc, but then again, that's the same for Linode

[normie3000]

Do you mean these are shared instances, and the stated resources are not actually available?

[skeeter2020]

how much work should the GP do to migrate if Linode is good enough, to potentially save up to $1.50/month (or spend 50 cents more)?

[cleaning]

If you're only paying $3-5 on Linode then your level of usage would probably be comfortably at $0 on Vercel.

[0xmattf]

It could be $0 on Render too, but then there's going to be a 3 minute load time for a landing page to become visible, lol. So if you don't want your server to sleep, you're going to have to pay $20/month.

Does Vercel do the same?

[somewhatgoated]

No, I run several small websites on Vercel for free for years, always served static pages very quickly

[0xmattf]

Static pages, sure. But what do you do if you want a contact form or something? Yeah, you can use services like formspree, but then you may end up paying $20/month for that alone. Perhaps I'm just ignorant.

[anurag]

Render offers free static sites that are served via a CDN and load instantly: https://render.com/docs/static-sites

[0xmattf]

When I said landing page, I had contact forms and more in mind, not documentation sites.

But that is news to me. Interesting. Although for static sites, I always use Netlify or even GitHub pages.

[cleaning]

No.

[arch-choot]

Repeating a prior comment I've made about this[0]: I run a rust webserver on a €4 VPS from hetzner that serves 300M (million) requests a day.

From what I can figure out, Vercel charges "$0.60 per million invocations" [1], which would cost me $180 per day.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47611454 [1] https://vercel.com/docs/functions/usage-and-pricing#invocati...

[mmastrac]

I run a Rust webserver on a literal Pi3 in my basement and I think I managed to bench it up >1000 rps for standard loads. And that includes a bunch of tanvity querying as well.

I suspect I could do 3000+ rps with some tuning and a more modern CPU or hetzner VPS, but there's some fun cachet from running on an old Pi while there's still headroom.

[esseph]

Makes sense considering the quality of Vercel's security response and customer communication.

[00deadbeef]

What if they have an actual back-end with long-running processes and scheduled tasks?

[p_stuart82]

exactly people paid the premium so somebody else's OAuth screwup wouldn't become their Sunday. and here we are.