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by chmod775 63 days ago
There's also no reason to learn to read and write! First graders could just point their phone at some text and have it read to them, or dictate to their phone to achieve the reverse. Why learn to swim, walk, run? Machines can do that for you too!

For now there's plenty of people who are significantly more capable than AI models. Someone who fully outscources to machines will never join that club.

You have to evaluate students on their own skills before you continue their education, because at some point AI models won't be able to help them. Anyone can use some LLM to pass the first few months of undergraduate engineering disciplines, but if you got through that and haven't learned a thing, you're completely fucked. Worse, you won't even notice the point at which AI starts to fail until you get your test results.

Once the above is not true anymore, education is pointless anyways. However for now AI can at best replace the worst performers and only in some areas.

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>You have to evaluate students on their own skills before you continue their education, because at some point AI models won't be able to help them.

If at some point AI models won't be able to help them, then give them assignments that reach the point where AI alone isn't enough, so they'll only be able to solve them if they learn whatever is necessary. This is what's meant by "making assignments harder". Students who learn to solve harder problems with AI will be more competitive in the workforce than students who only learn to solve easier problems by themselves. Because AI already allows people to solve harder problems than they could unassisted, but it's a skill that needs to be learned.

As an example, with AI, it'd be a reasonable assignment to ask students to write a working C compiler from scratch. Without AI that'd be completely beyond the reach of the vast majority of students.

That's great for autodidacts, but most students will be stumped by a complicated problem if you don't slowly walk them up an incline first.

Also what do you think is an appropriate assignment for first graders where "AI is not enough"? Are we supposed to give them problems meant for engineering majors?

The things you are saying at best apply to a few select areas of education and you are hyperfocusing on them. What you are neglecting is that a lot of education focuses on teaching tool use: reading and writing is a tool, CAD software is a tool, AI is a tool, even language is a tool. For many people the best way to learn to use tools is being taught by another human being. That human being has to evaluate their progress somehow. If a first grader uses their phone to have text read to them, this tells me very little, except maybe that they can at least understand spoken language to a degree.

Using LLMs effectively, especially without essentially becoming the LLMs meat-puppet, requires a set of skills many 10th graders still struggle with. Skills like putting what you mean into words, extracting meaning from text, and thinking critically about the information you are fed.

Finally there's the matter of philosophy, ethics, and politics, which also happen to be on the curriculum in some places. Are you going to let a LLM argue for you? If you have never learned to evaluate your own beliefs and turn them into something coherent that you can communicate to others, and instead let the LLM argue on your behalf, then congratulations: you have just un-personed yourself because you refused to let others help you become an actual individual in society. You're a sack of meat hooked up to a machine. ... It's probably obvious I feel strongly about this in particular.

At the end of the day, we can at least agree that people should learn to read and write? For now?