[ofrzeta]

Why trust humans? What do you think about this (honest question, because I think this is quite a bit different to what is understood as vibe coding) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47589856 (TJ Green implementing a new PG extension with the help of Claude Code)

[ozgrakkurt]

I don't trust humans so much as I trust their reputation as a group.

I don't know who TJ Green is, even if they are previously working on a database it would take a lot of time for any new product to be trusted.

For example I would trust LLVM but I don't trust Mojo which is headed by the same person.

Putting LLMs in the equation, you would also need to trust that LLMs do not create hidden garbage that will rot the core of a project over time and make it a pain to use. This kind of risk view is very reasonable to take in my opinion.

For example look at the leaked code of claude cli and consider if you want to use a database coded like that for a long running project.

This will have to be proven in the future imo and I wouldn't use anything like this unless it really brings a unique benefit and is extremely useful.

[carefree-bob]

curious, what about Mojo makes you not trust it?

[ozgrakkurt]

I used both rust and zig when they were new and I found myself focusing too much on the language instead of what I wanted to do with it.

Zig doing breaking changes was especially frustrating for some time.

Also all the things that would be missing from the language. Sometimes I realized I need that feature some time into the development and then the compiler doesn't have it.

Mojo being also a new language, I would think just writing code in C or C++ would be more stable and useful for me.

[carefree-bob]

Yeah, that makes sense. It's always tempting to focus on tools, whether tweaking the OS, or learning new languages, or new frameworks, editors, etc.