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by goku12 67 days ago
> It’s probably unnatural for adult men to spend much time with tiny children in the first place.

Sorry, what? The framing of this sentence alone has a very creepy vibe. I can't speak for all of us, but most us have strong protective instincts towards kids of all ages, especially the youngest ones.

> This is why many men find it difficult, it is contrary to instinct.

Contrary to whose instinct? If I had a kid, I would want to ensure his/her safety and success. Men in general yearn for it. And there's nothing that suggests men are incapable of it. Research indicates good outcomes. And I know fathers who are the sole care givers for young kids when life makes it inconvenient for the mother.

> Do hunter gatherers split care of tiny children? Whatever they do is what we’re wired for, mostly.

Hunter gatherer culture is at least ten thousand years old - plenty of time for social behavior to evolve. Modern humans, including men are very heavily invested in kids because humans can't have a lot of kids. Ensuring each one's safety becomes important.

Heck! Humans, including males are very nurturing and protective towards even children of other men and other species. Plenty of evidence that your assertion doesn't hold at all.

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Sadly, we are barely civilized. A hundred-thousand of years need to pass to make hormones civilization compatible. We have prehistoric hardware -hormones- and modern software -law, rites, supposed behaviour. Current law is like a dog slow virtual machine running under a Pentium MMX and some software on it. Picture subleq/muxleq running Eforth under 233 MHZ based CPU running an ASCII Art Mandelblot with integers. At least you will need a minute or two to render it.

Biology it's the same, hormones run much faster than social customs.

We tried with religion/law, which the 'original sin' it's just a metaphor on hormone drived behaviours VS the learned behaviours in order to create a successful civilization/trive/society without wars. Probably that happened after last big ice defrosting.

Geologically speaking, we are civilized beings since 'yesterday'.

We tried that by force: Stalinisms, religion based totalitarian states, nazism creating a demon scapegoat... they failed. You can't drive changes on decades. It's impossible. Humanities' people fail to understand this. You need an effort of millenia in order to get some visible results.

Speak for yourself, it seems like you’re really invested in something biological being “at fault” for something. You’re thread sitting which is never a good look, but worse still when you are spouting some kind of personal philosophy held up as science.
Is not personal philosphy but actual science.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/403855473_Sex_diffe...

Now keep your Humanities away from actual facts, please.

BTW, my favourite pop-science Mathematician it's a woman and the subject she loves most it's DIscrete Math, something directly related to my beloved computers too. She has no issues with the rest of branches but as I said the one she feels more confortable with it's graphs, nodes and whatnot.

>my favourite pop-science Mathematician it's a woman

Said entirely with love, this is a worse look, a cliche even. https://www.quora.com/What-s-wrong-with-saying-some-of-my-be...

That says more about your prejudice than my supposed one:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clara_Grima

Said this, most Mathematicians -no matter women or men- owe a lot to Gardner and Conway.

Non recreational math from Clara:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scutoid