[razodactyl]

If anyone's had 4.7 update any documents so far - notice how concise it is at getting straight to the point. It rewrote some of my existing documentation (using Windsurf as the harness), not sure I liked the decrease in verbosity (removed columns and combined / compressed concepts) but it makes sense in respect to the model outputting less to save cost.

To me this seems more that it's trained to be concise by default which I guess can be countered with preference instructions if required.

What's interesting to me is that they're using a new tokeniser. Does it mean they trained a new model from scratch? Used an existing model and further trained it with a swapped out tokeniser?

The looped model research / speculation is also quite interesting - if done right there's significant speed up / resource savings.

[andai]

Interesting. In conversational use, it's noticeably more verbose.

[fumar]

On API use, I am noticing verbose output across the board. When I task it with plans it now creates more detailed task counts and tasks descriptions. It is more constrained to its directions than 4.6.