[4MOAisgoodenuf]

When an “Islamic country” starts getting several billions of dollars in aid from the US and begins “quadruple tapping” civilians, then I suppose there will be some outrage.

In the meantime, this outrage appears to be more based in the criminal conduct of a genocidal state than any religious amenity

[rexpop]

Several Muslim-majority countries have received billions in U.S. aid for decades, not just recently. The clearest examples are Egypt, Jordan, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and, in humanitarian years, Syria and Yemen.

Hell, Pakistan got more than $19 billion in U.S. aid from 2002–2010, plus a $7.5 billion non-military package over five years, and Afghanistan got more than $109 billion total through USAID.

Egypt gets about $2 billion a year on average since 1979, mostly military aid.

[DaveFr]

??? The US gives billions in aid to Jordan and Egypt, who torture and kill dissident civilians. And, it's not a genocide to lose a war you started.

[SilverElfin]

How do you think Islam spread? Peacefully? Look at history. And look at Islamic texts that preach the subjugation and killing of anyone who isn’t Islamic. It’s much more of a supremacist culture than any other.

[22122]

islam wasn't the only religion to have an empire. and islam spread through voluntary conversion, for hundreds of years the subjects of the islamic empires remained majority the pre conquest religion. also no muslim empire ever conquered indonesia and malaysia, yet they are two muslim majority countries today.

[SilverElfin]

> islam spread through voluntary conversion

False.

> hundreds of years the subjects of the islamic empires remained majority the pre conquest religion

Even if this was true, which I dispute, Islam imposes all sorts of methods to oppress other religions. Like special taxes for those who aren’t Muslims.

> no muslim empire ever conquered indonesia and malaysia, yet they are two muslim majority countries today

And now these countries have inhumane systems like sharia courts.

[basilgohar]

You can dispute but you're still wrong. The majority of people under Islamic rule historically were non-Muslims but were afforded far greater rights than other societies, such as freedom or worship, protection, the right to their own laws, and the right to Islam's laws as well if they wanted.

And yes, they were taxed. Muslims paid zakat, non-Muslims paid jizyah. We can't make non-Muslims pay a religious tax, so they paid a different one. You make that sound like it's a bad thing.

Also, what you said about Malaysia and Indonesia is bizarrely bad and incorrect. It's not worth replying to you, you just spew lies like a Zionist. Oh wait...

[jon_adler]

Jizyah wasn’t at the same rate as zakat and its rate wasn’t uniform. It was often used to humiliate, reminding non Muslims of their subordinate status under Islamic law

[SilverElfin]

Are you seriously trying to revise taxation of other religions into an “alternative” when it clearly was meant to discriminate and oppress them? The Quran literally says the jizya is about fighting those who don’t believe in “god”, to subdue them.

You are spreading revisionist misinformation, but it’s also so obvious and easy to disprove with a quick search. Why even try to spin it this way?

[khaledh]

> The Quran literally says the jizya is about fighting those who don’t believe in “god”, to subdue them

Please quote this part from the Quran. I'd like to learn more.

[aibrahem]

The mainstream academic consensus is that Jews generally fared better under Islamic rule than in medieval Christian Europe. Scholars also agree that jizya was paid in lieu of zakat (which Muslims paid) and military service.

Of course, this raises the question: if Jews fared better under Muslim rule than under Christianity, why would they leave their alleged homeland and go to Europe, only to want to go back a thousand years later?

[gizzlon]

The US this week invoked God when bombing people

Of course, Iran does to, but let's not pretend everything would be peaceful without Islam

[olivermuty]

Yeah christians would never go crusading like that!

Hmmm, I wonder where the word «crusade» comes from though

[SilverElfin]

Who said anything to defend Christianity? Are you really using it to justify Islam calling for violence against people with other beliefs?