[esbranson]

> infrastructure to live an enjoyable life is there

Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but living in the US ain't exactly like Escape from New York or Escape from LA. For every Mississippi there is an analogous place in Europe, and for every Liechtenstein there is an analogous place in the US. I'm not sure if your comment is a counterargument or neutral commentary.

[ragall]

> For every Mississippi there is an analogous place in Europe, and for every Liechtenstein there is an analogous place in the US

Neither are true.

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Name a single metropolitan area in the US with infrastructure on par with any single European one.

[esbranson]

New York City. Compared to small cities like London, Paris, or Rome there are areas where it's not on par, but its multimodal transport, energy, heating, water, sanitation systems is larger and more comprehensive than most cities in Europe.

[backscratches]

We have to pick some metrics, but I bet per capita buses and train cars are dwarfed by even cities well below the tiers you listed compared to NYC.

[esbranson]

Buses and train cars are a small part of infrastructure, regardless of whether it's the only part of infrastructure certain information ecosystems speak to. But sure. $30 billion per year over many decades for those parts, in one city, provides pretty extensive systems that don't even make sense in smaller cities.

> I bet per capita buses and train cars are dwarfed by even cities well below the tiers

And I will find even smaller US cities with even better metrics.

[backscratches]

> And I will find even smaller US cities with even better metrics.

You won't. There is no city in the US you can get around better than even a 3rd, 4th, 5th or 6th tier European city. Its silly to even argue.