[celticninja]

Even proper capitalism would be anti whatever this current system is. It's a bastardization of capitalism which has been molded to allow those in power and with money to accumulate more of both.

They say socialism works in theory but not in practice, whereas capitalism should not work in theory but does in practice. Which is bullshit, because we have never tried either approach without a corrupt government layer that seems to enrich themselves over everyone else.

[mnky9800n]

I have lived in Germany, Norway, and now the Netherlands. I think they all have socialism as Americans talk about it while also having capitalism. And none of those seem terribly corrupt.

[celticninja]

The corruption is just legal. That's the difference. So you still get lobbyists and political donors, the Jobs for MPS after they leave office. So yes the corruption is there. It's just legalized and doesn't look like brown envelope stuffed with cash