[09725290216]

Don't be ridiculous. You really don't see a difference between someone choosing to see a doctor for their own benefit and the state forcing someone to be subjected to an examination for the state's benefit?

Nobody should accept gender discrimination or being touched without consent.

[AnimalMuppet]

How far do you take that? One medical condition that has been considered militarily relevant is flat feet. If the state can draft people, can they make you show them your feet? If you can't avoid the draft but can avoid the medical exam, isn't that a way of avoiding the draft?

[lifestyleguru]

> can they make you show them your feet?

I see a subtle difference between being barefoot and showing cock and balls to half dozen strangers. I know of at least one American president who avoided being drafted because of his "feet situation".

[anonyfox]

at this point sensible/reasonable tradeoffs should be reintroduced again. absolutist stances like that, no matter how well intended, are bullshit. its simply not black and white, you just happen to draw a line on the extreme sensitivity side compared to others. its okay, but a you problem.

Even touch without consent is explicitly a thing that will be accepted by any sane human. example: someone grabbing your shoulders last second to pull you back from a street crossing before a car hits you that you didn't see coming by yourself. There are even laws in some countries when you do NOT help in acute situations you can go to jail. And at the end it IS touch, without consent.

I just don't get why genitals are such a big deal to begin with. but also baltic sea here, people go naked to beaches or in saunas without blinking since ever.