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by jtbayly 63 days ago
I refuse to go to McDonalds anymore because they refuse to acknowledge you, won’t take your order, force you to use those stupid terminals.
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I actively seek out such establishments because I'm an introvert and I don't want to talk to people. Japan is a paradise in this way... an extremely large number of restaurants do not require interacting with a human to place your order.
I'm the same, although I understand OP's sentiment to a degree. I also like no interaction with someone who is potentially or visibly sick and contagious. That is why I never stand in the service line at the grocery store. It's always self serve only.
As a customer of McDonalds in both countries: the counter is much better in Japan, especially now.

I was always proud of the American stores having lots of nice napkins, sauces, etc for self-service but we lost that years ago.

Why do you want them to take your order if you have access to a terminal?
Because it's 10x faster. In can say "big mac meal" and be done while the kiosk ordering machine is still loading the first screen.
It’s pure efficiency. I always customize my orders and it’s too many taps on a usually laggy system. I’m also usually ordering for 3, all customized. I can tell a cashier the entire order in less than 20s. And somehow their UI allows them to enter it just as quickly. It’s not a muscle memory thing either, it’s literally the interface and hardware they use runs fast and is perhaps designed with efficiency. The kiosk app is designed for dummies and takes forever to use. I’ve tried it at several places and it’s always my take away. When I use it I literally watch 5+ people place human cashier orders before I can place my order.

I’m not against talking to people for transactions. I’m against being forced to use inefficient machines.

One rule I had with my kids at McDonalds: you take it like they make it. No customizations; they will just fuck it up anyway. If you don't like pickles take them off yourself.
But those tiny diced up onions (·•᷄‎ࡇ•᷅ )
The cash register doesn't try quite as hard to upsell you as the kiosk.

But yes, the cash register should be able to support the data entry skills of teenagers growing up with TikTok.

I’d rather the kiosk give the same speed data entry shortcuts/ui. Or honestly, speech to text should be used here.
It’s coming. They’ll let Taco Bell work out the kinks. No need to be first mover there when the food’s staying the same and I doubt anyone will undercut them in the meantime.
I prefer the machine because the order is correct 100% of the time. When I used to have someone take the order, I had to double check the receipt to make sure the order was correct.
Just wait until you have to make a complicated order in a country where people don't speak English very well, you will be very thankful for the kiosks. Even the US has two languages.
Yeah, the app and kiosks are slow and buggy, but I've never had a custom order prepared wrong with the kiosk or app. And as slow as it is, it's still almost always faster than ordering in person because your order is usually ready when you arrive and you never have to wait in line at the register or drive thru (assuming you choose to pick up at the counter, which you should if the dining room is open and you don't want to wait).

Also, when the app or kiosk bugs out and fails to correctly process an offer, or lose an order, McDonald's cashiers and managers are in my experience typically trained to set things right. Not only will cashiers honor "app only" deals at the register when something goes wrong, managers will occasionally comp the entire order.

In the one sentence he wrote, he clearly told you.
No, unless the terminals being "stupid" is the issue.