[QuantumGood]

You have copied the World War Z script's tenth man description word-for-word:

(If nine of us) "look at the same information and arrive at the exact same conclusion, it’s the duty of the tenth man to disagree. No matter how improbable it may seem, the tenth man has to start digging on the assumption that the other nine are wrong." [1]

[1] https://scrapsfromtheloft.com/movies/world-war-z-transcript/...

[Jamesbeam]

And they copied it from research about the Yom Kippur War. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yom_Kippur_War

You know that in movies where the military is depicted they have consultants to mix fact with fiction, right?

Does the concept of the tenth man sound like fiction or something that is actually useful in a military context, Sherlock?

[QuantumGood]

I told some people after I first saw the movie that it could have been named "the tenth man", and shared the concept. So I remembered the quote and the concept, and I notice it wherever it may nearly crop up.

Presumably your defensiveness (edit: and your downvote) is because you feel attacked. Not my intention, nor was it to associate an organizational concept with its presentation to tarnish it somehow. I think HN readers are pretty observant that fact and fiction are mixed in modern media. I didn't mean "copy" as in "borrowed", I just noticed it was word-for-word.

If I were to "Sherlock" a bit, I would presume you've been attacked before, since you tend to share longer comments, and we all know the more you say online, the more harshly diverse the viewpoints of responses will be. I wish that were not the case. Your comments seem to be detailed and thoughtful, which sadly invites more criticism in the current state of online commenting.

One thing you can do is assume the best intentions of a comment, and respond to that. HN encourages that.

[Jamesbeam]

I value your time and response and sharing your thoughts with me.

You make a few wrong assumptions and come to the wrong conclusions in some points. Others are valid.

I am not defensive, I just didn’t see the value in your comment and asked you to think about it. I could have done that in a more civil way, I’d like to apologize for that. That was a mistake.

Also I have never downvoted a single person on here as far as I am aware, because I don’t believe in suppressing other people’s thoughts, no matter how controversial or contrary they are to what I might think or believe.

I address them and sometimes I am wrong or even learn something new that will change my viewpoint. So every reply is valid and important input for me.

If I wrote in "military speech" half the people here would need a dictionary so I at least try to break complex concepts down to something everyone can understand.

The concept was probably explained to whoever wrote the script like I was taught how to explain it to people outside the military. And I think we can both agree that it’s a pretty good breakdown to explain the core concept in the least amount of words.

> One thing you can do is assume the best intentions of a comment, and respond to that. HN encourages that.

You’re right, but I have some bad days as well and when you are grumpy and have PTSD you’re not always the nicest person. You can be sure I am trying to work on that for the past twenty years and my snarky Sherlock remark wasn’t ok, if I look at it from the point that you meant well and just wanted to point out that the concept found its way into public mainstream via cinema.

I hope you accept my apology and I’ll try to do better next time.

[QuantumGood]

Thanks James. Odd comment on my part, for sure. I completely left out any frame of reference. The precise wording just struck me.