[Myrmornis]

https://d2lang.com/ is a nicer language than Mermaid with much nicer visual appearance. It would be great if it became more widely supported.

[erajasekar]

I reached the same conclusion after comparing diagram-as-code tools — D2 feels cleaner and more expressive than Mermaid.

I’ve been working on an AI diagramming tool built around D2: https://aidiagrammaker.com/ You describe a system in plain English, and it generates architecture diagrams, flowcharts, and sequence diagrams in D2.

Edits can be made either directly in the D2 code or via a context-aware editor.

[wps]

Has anyone here used https://pikchr.org/ from the creator of SQLite?

[neuronexmachina]

I agree that it's nicer and more powerful, but it's a little concerning it hasn't had any commits in the past 6 months: https://github.com/terrastruct/d2/commits/master/

[16bitvoid]

I think the founder/lead developer, Alexander Wang, works at OpenAI now.

Plus, according to this comment on an issue, folks in their discord say it's not being actively maintained.

https://github.com/terrastruct/d2/issues/2735#issuecomment-4...

[vladsanchez]

Never imagined Scale.ai CEO was D2Lang creator nor that he joined his room-mate at OpenAI (giggle).

Thanks for sharing

[16bitvoid]

Scale AI is a different Alex. Their first names are spelled slightly different. Alexandr vs Alexander

[nine_k]

Maybe it doesn't need constant fixing? Are there many issues in the tracker?

[jauntywundrkind]

How good is the LLM at creating d2? What if any skills/material can folks recommend? (Follow-up: D2-mcp has a cheat sheet, https://github.com/h0rv/d2-mcp/blob/main/d2/CHEATSHEET.md)

And, does GitHub support it? (Follow up: alas not! Sadness. Please add!)

[elcritch]

For me that's the deal breaker :/

[lugao]

Does it produce real svgs as opposed to foreign object html in svg mess that mermaid compilers produce?

[troyvit]

d2 produces real svgs but I've found them to have a hard time displaying in other svg editors. The d2 folks talk about that somewhere and they have some fixes for it.

[spacecow]

Oh, finally, something that supports actual hierarchical state diagrams (that isn't Graphviz, no offense)... Mermaid's "You cannot define transitions between internal states belonging to different composite states" [1] has driven me up a wall for years.

  parentA.childA -> parentB.childB: voop
  parentB.childB -> parentA: vorp 

shouldn't be that hard!

[1] https://mermaid.ai/open-source/syntax/stateDiagram.html#comp...

[pastelsky]

Thanks for sharing! I haven’t looked into that before but looks neat.

[growrow]

What makes it nicer?

[Myrmornis]

Take a look at https://d2lang.com/examples/dagre/ and https://d2lang.com/tour/intro/

The language is richer and all diagram types are implemented consistently in the same language in a way that can be composed, as opposed to being a collection of unrelated DSLs.

The improved visual appearance is clear from inspecting example diagrams, I believe.