[BrissyCoder]

Worked in and managed a few "Agile" teams. Never heard of a dev get punished for a bad estimate. Can you describe exactly what you mean?

[tetrisgm]

1. estimate this sprint. let's say it's 100 points. 2. oh no, you shipped 80 points. 3. "we need to better estimates":

a) engineer spends more time trying to guess which direction the wind will blog b) engineer starts sandbagging estimates c) engineer changes nothing. looks bad next time the imaginary goal isn't met. "bob needs help estimating".

[BrissyCoder]

Yeah okay. Thanks for clarifying. I guess I thought when you said "punish" you meant something more dramatic!

[lmm]

> 3. "we need to better estimates"

Push back on that. Agile says other things are more important.