[DiabloD3]

I'm not sure who Josh Gottheimer of NJ is, but he seems to be one of those stealth "fake" Democrats. Too centrist to be a Republican, but also too centrist to be part of the DSA.

He seems to also support H.R. 7540.

I think the Democrats in his district need to seriously consider primarying him and replace him with someone that doesn't bend to foreign or corporate whims.

[relaxing]

You can count on one hand the number of democrats in congress who could be part of the DSA.

But yes, Gottenheimer is a conservative democrat.

[red-iron-pine]

> NJ

there is your answer, mate. lotta private interests swaying NY and NJ elections

[ipnon]

I really think left-right and honest-dishonest are useless dimensions to evaluate Congress members on. The job practically requires ideological fuzziness and truth stretching to get anything done. This is a feature: legislatures that require high ideological purity tend to become rubber stamps. DPRK is a good example.

[burnt-resistor]

You're bothesidesing and rationalizing a complete lack of integrity.

AIPAC money, PAC money, and gold bar bribe takers are definitely corrupt and need to be in prison.

[ipnon]

My belief is that to a large extent the art of politics is the art of bothsidesing and rationalizing away your integrity for common aims. And that when applied correctly, these common aims can be used to benefit the public. Look at systems where you can't bothesides (also known as finding common ground and compromising) or rationalize the integrity of other members (also known as acting in good faith). I suspect you will not find the results of these political bodies to have preferable results to the American Congress!

[Moomoomoo309]

Honestly, I'm from NJ and I'm still shocked they actually charged Gold Bar Bob for what he did. He's so influential in NJ politics, I thought they'd let him get away with it like he did all the other bribes he's taken over the years. I guess literal gold bars from Egypt with obvious provenance was just too on the nose.