[piva00]

I recommend you visiting the Brazilian region of Pantanal, if possible travel through Mato Grosso do Sul -> Mato Grosso -> southern Pará where it transitions into the Amazon.

You will see vast areas of cattle ranching, soybeans plantation used for cattle feed, and other crops that can be used as cattle feed. All that area used to be the Pantanal and Amazon, now transformed to grow beef.

If we would reduce the calories wasted on beef, this area could still have a lot more native vegetation. Of course, it's purely wishful thinking because this ship has sailed, beef consumption will take a long time to stop growing, these farms will fight for their lives to keep producing, and we've lost a huge area of incredible nature to eat some steaks and burgers.

[belorn]

If you want to save the rain forest you got to make saving the rain forest more profitable than cutting it down. If its not beef, it will be the next most profitable thing which generally is corn for ethanol production, something that already has eaten a huge area of incredible nature. If not corn, it will be some form of oil. If not oil, it will be some form of rare wood to make fancy furniture for rich people.

The reason we have lost a huge area of incredible nature is not because people want to eat some steaks and burgers. It is explicitly because that land made some people money. Without that incentive the forest would still be there.

[onraglanroad]

And none of that is for feeding starving people who have no food.

It's all to grow profitable luxury food.

[cromka]

People starving come from parts for the world affected by global warming, which unsustainable farming is one of the reasons. Which, in turn, crates mass migration issues. Which, in turn, is a major reason behind massive shift of Overton window and the current world situation we're in.

[DrProtic]

Every country that has a problem with starvation has huge population growth.

They have at least 2.5% population growth yearly which translates to doubling population in 28 years, while some have as high as 4.5% which means they double every 15-16 years.

If a population has a food problem, why does it double every 15 years?

[ponector]

I don't know which one is worse: to grow soybeans to feed cattle or to use as biodiesel.

What is really upsetting, the speed with which jundles are replaced with oil palm.

Humans have mastered exploitation of everything: the nature, the livestock and other humans.

[cute_boi]

If we stop subsidizing i think it will reduce a lot.