[WillAdams]

For the effect this had on Apple, see:

https://www.folklore.org/Stolen_From_Apple.html

[chasil]

Bearing in mind that Jobs famously intended to "knife the baby," referring to the cash flow from the 6502 machines, it is ironic that he fought to stop this clone.

I remember this phrase from a stage play, The Agony and the Ecstasy of Steve Jobs, but Google shows this source:

https://www.theregister.com/1998/11/06/were_talking_about_kn...

The play doesn't even have its own wiki.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Daisey#The_Agony_and_the_...

He also put a stop to the clone PowerMacs when he returned to Apple in the 90s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macintosh_clone

[WillAdams]

Yeah, but the Apple ][ was so vital to Apple's survival/cash flow that they made a disastrous deal:

https://www.folklore.org/MacBasic.html

and the PowerMac clones weren't doing anything interesting and were simply cannibalizing Mac sales, cutting into Apple's profits --- really wish at least one of them had made a tablet unit w/ a Wacom digitizer, but that was too small a market as Axiotron found when they did the ModBook (which I still regret not buying).

[amelius]

Good artists copy, great artists steal ...

[WillAdams]

Please provide one example of "art" which Franklin originated.

[amelius]

I mean, if you put a Mac or MacOS in a museum next to Picasso, that would make many people cry.

When people think of a Mac as "art", we call that an occupational hazard.

So if you call a Mac art, you might as well call any computer art.

[WillAdams]

I can remember the 16-page _Newsweek_ ad quite vividly --- the Mac was something special, and even its spiritual successor, the NeXT Cube did not reach the level of artistic flair which the Mac hit as a quick perusal of:

https://www.folklore.org

would argue.

Moreover, it made the cut at at least one museum:

https://www.moma.org/collection/works/3742?artist_id=10295

(and there are 24 other items by Apple in that collection)

and yes, they have a Picasso as well:

https://www.moma.org/calendar/exhibitions/5530

[bigyabai]

Anything can make the cut at MOMA. The gigantic disaster of OLPC is enshrined as "art" there too: https://www.moma.org/collection/works/155757

[razorbeamz]

If you think that a Mac or an OLPC is not art, you have a very narrow definition of art.

[WillAdams]

It was an interesting design, well-suited to the target audience and presents quite well in person (a co-worker bought two, one donated, the other for his personal use when hiking).