[tom1337]

We are also currently inmidst a migration from NextJS to TanStack Start and it's worth for the performance and resource gains alone. NextJS' dev server takes around 3-4 GB memory after a few page click while TanStack / Vite consumes less than a GB.

[jvidalv]

This is something I noticed, originally I thought "AI" was the perfect tool for Vercel and Nextjs (current standard = future standard), but then I realized is the total opposite, their moat/stick is gone now, and Rouch that is smart I think knows this.

I switched a middle sized app to Tanstack Router + Vite while I was walking my dogs. Then 30 minuts-1 hour QA and it was done. This should have never happened before AI.

(I did switch because I was tired of the bloated network tab with 100 unnecesary RSC calls, the 5 seconds lag when clicking on an internal link, the 10 seconds "hot reload" after a change... I'm on a M4 MAX with 64GB of ram....)

[satvikpendem]

Vercel's moat is DX in hosting, not NextJS. Consider, people who switch to TanStack Start still need a place to host and many would continue to choose Vercel.

[jvidalv]

Same principle applies, hosting in Railway has slightly worse UX, but with LLM's you don't need to write a single docker line anymore, so deploying on railway is way way less cumbersome than before, and you gain more control and less costs.

[dbbk]

This moat is rapidly disappearing though. Cloudflare is catching up, most apps (including TanStack Start) can be one-click deployed without configuration now.