[cwmoore]

Conformity I think follows the innate drive to coerce the nonconformant into compliance

[JumpCrisscross]

Sure. Push and pull. The point is that needs effort to work at larger scales. We don’t “naturally” organize into nations of three hundred million or a billion. To the extent we do, we also “naturally” go to war.

[cwmoore]

Again, I think the rewards of controlling others explains both, and not whatever handwavy natural/unnatural attributes might be identified.