[hilariously]

This is basically how most engineers talk to their managers, politely implying - "can you see how this decision has a short term payoff but a long term consequence?"

Before LLMs I only worked at one place that "only hired seniors and above" and now its the most commonplace thing in the world.

Nobody owes me anything, I already have the skills I need, where will the juniors come from that these companies are going to need in a few years? We don't need extremist stances in either camp, we need balance.

[0x3f]

> Nobody owes me anything, I already have the skills I need, where will the juniors come from that these companies are going to need in a few years? We don't need extremist stances in either camp, we need balance.

Seems a bit like asking where the bread will come from, if no-one is forced to bake it.

[sumeno]

More like where the bread will come from if nobody learns how to bake it and the knowledge of how to bake it is lost.

[0x3f]

Yes, this is what hysteria about bread looks like. People have been saying a disaster of the kids not knowing how to bake is coming since the 1800's. Yet, we still have bread.

How exactly will the knowledge of creating software be lost when the claim is that an ubiquitous software creation tool is going to take over the world? Is it going to refuse to emit anything less complex than a todo app?

I've never baked bread in my life and yet, with the right motivation, I'm sure I could learn from the literature and some trial and error alone. In the hypothetical world where bread demand massively exceeds supply, we'd form a guild and incrementally improve from there. Same way we learned it in the first place. Breadmaking wasn't gifted to us by aliens.

[andrekandre]

  > if no-one is forced to bake it.

not to take away from the point too much, but i think the whole idea of market economies is nobody needs to be forced to do anything, no?

[0x3f]

Well, that is the point :) we don't fret about where the bread comes from too much, or talk about how we need to act now lest we never have bread again. People want bread, and the price goes up until someone is willing to make bread.