[HDThoreaun]

Zion backcountry isnt in the canyon though. Its nice, but not nearly as scenic as the canyon. If you want the unique canyon experience theres no way to get it without the crowds.

> The backcountry is just as beautiful

Just not true. There are 10,000 sq miles in utah alone that are just as nice as the non canyon part of zion. The canyon is unique.

[jobs_throwaway]

You're wrong. The Subway, Orderville, and Mystery Canyon are all slot/narrow canyons and you won't find crowds remotely comparable to the shuttle stops. You can get the unique canyon experience without the crowds.