[iammjm]

To all against a priori against this, I encourage you to read up on the history and consequences of "liberum veto"

[busterarm]

This is very short term thinking.

The EU will not survive losing the veto. And it'll happen in under a decade.

[TitaRusell]

The EU survives for as long as it makes financial sense.

Hungary never exited because they're a poverty stricken nation suffering brain drain.

[busterarm]

It hasn't made sense for loads of nations since 2008 and they've loudly complained about it, but the political will to leave isn't there due to lack of flashpoint social issues.

Get rid of the veto and that will change.

[illiac786]

UK would disagree on the economic meaningfulness of the EU.

[mhitza]

I wouldn't put a date in predictions, but wuthout right to veto they're playing harder into the nationalistic propaganda of "Brussel forces us"

[busterarm]

https://michalovadek.github.io/eu-veto-tracker/. It's not just the nationalistic usual suspects that use their veto power.

This rightly points out that many issues that are known will have their veto used don't even get brought up. Removal of the veto will stop this and I expect lightning rod topics and disputes to occur much more frequently.

Same with the free-riding comment. Removing the veto will expose some nations "true colors" in ways that most do not anticipate. It's not all sunshine and rainbows of agreement among the EU member states.

[bigbadfeline]

> many issues that are known will have their veto used don't even get brought up.

It's quite disingenuous to blame the veto power for lack of discussion on important issues, if anything it's an argument in favor of the veto, because the only reason to avoid discussion when you lack coercive power is weak arguments... and there's no need to waste time with such nonsense.

> Removing the veto will expose some nations "true colors" in ways that most do not anticipate.

Another slippery argument - there is absolutely no reason to hide the "true colors" of veto-capable members you disagree with, actually the opposite is true, one will have to come up with more, more convincing and true-color-exposing arguments in order to apply pressure via the electorate of the true colors.

> It's not all sunshine and rainbows of agreement among the EU member states.

No it's not, there are shady forces who dream about coercion for the worse.

[busterarm]

This is underpants-gnomes-thinking. If the compelling arguments were there and they were politically tenable, they would be voiced already.

Nobody is keeping obvious policy programs in their back pocket. Especially when politicians are chasing clips.