[tosser12344321]

> I think you'll be more needed, not less, in times to come

Ya I get the need but you miss the point - no, you can't pay me anymore to wade into that and own risk, beyond a consulting context with low skin in the game.

There is a wave of senior leads thinking like this, because the knife's edge of "enough risk to game it for pay" finally tilted too far, and the career has changed.

In terms of going home after work and not yelling at my kids and spouse due to work stress due to the 10th 0day in a week on my corporate VPN/my retail-facing app/my..., there's a real QoL issue to consider. Many outside of security consistently misunderstands the mental health/career satisfaction/pay triad.

[chasd00]

> beyond a consulting context

"Consulting, if you're not a part of the solution there's money to be made prolonging the problem" - Despair.com :)

/i'm a consultant

[tosser12344321]

The well-paved path into vCISO life

[theturtlemoves]

Fair point, hadn't looked at it that way.

(Edit: Word of warning though, my father was a bricklayer and he also screamed at his kids whenever he came home overworked. I'm not saying I know the answer here but every job has its "they don't pay me enough for this shit")

[operatingthetan]

>Ya I get the need but you miss the point - no, you can't pay me anymore to wade into that and own risk, beyond a consulting context with low skin in the game.

In a situation of triage, "owning risk" is off the table.