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by xiaohanyu 64 days ago
wow this looks super cool!

How long did it take to develop?

Have you considered the competitors like tiptap editor? Curious what is your opinion VS tiptap's pros/cons.

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Thanks! The project started because I needed to replace Xinha (https://xinha.webfactional.com/) in the admin panel of a gaming news site I've been running since the early 2000s. Xinha served me well for years, but it was no longer actively maintained and had accumulated a lot of legacy baggage. I wanted something lightweight that just worked without pulling in a framework or a tree of dependencies.

Development time: the core editor took a few weeks of focused work, but I've been iterating on features for a couple of months now (slash commands, markdown mode, table editing, etc.).

Regarding Tiptap: it's a great project and I have a lot of respect for it. They're solving a different problem though. Tiptap is built on top of ProseMirror, which gives you a proper document model, collaborative editing, and a very composable extension architecture. If you're building something like Notion or a collaborative SaaS editor, that's absolutely the right choice.

The trade-off is complexity and size. Tiptap pulls in ProseMirror and its own packages, easily 200KB+ of dependencies before you even add extensions. You need a bundler, a build step, and you install features one by one as separate packages.

Zero WYSIWYG comes from the opposite direction. It's a single JS file and a single CSS file, about 120KB total, zero dependencies. You drop a `<script>` tag in your page, call `init()`, and you immediately get it working.

It's really aimed at a different use case: traditional server-rendered sites (PHP, Django, Rails...) where you just need a reliable textarea replacement in your admin panel without introducing a build pipeline or a framework dependency. That's the world I come from, and that's the itch it scratches.